That's it for today. It is extremely risky not to try and tutor a win condition you are missing, but you could be desperate enough to use this as a last ditch save the game card to stop someone else from winning. Even if you only need the Laboratory Maniac, what do you do if it happens to be in your top six cards and you exile it? 《Demonic Consultation》がサーチのしやすいインスタントであることもコンボの安定に一役買っています。 ・ジェネラルへの依存度が低い デモコン寿司におけるケスの役割は、2枚コンボを1枚コンボへと変えることです。 The cEDH archetypes #02 - Demonic Consultation. For Lab Man wins, you cast this with the intention of exiling your entire library for {B}. ._3-SW6hQX6gXK9G4FM74obr{display:inline-block;vertical-align:text-bottom;width:16px;height:16px;font-size:16px;line-height:16px} A great example for a deck that wants to play Demonic Consultation is Kess. A more concise way to state what I a trying to say might be to grab Food Chain itself, or combo protection if Food Chain is in hand to go off and win with. When you have Lab-Man in hand or in play you cast Demonic Consultation EOT before your turn naming a card not in your deck. 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It is furthermore a decent enough tutor if your deck is not reliant on many cards to win and does not mind losing a chunk of the deck. Demonic Consultation is a bigger problem. It seems your win condition is some kind of Jace, Wielder of Mysteries and Demonic Consultation. 20% chance of exiling wincons; mitigated by drawing them or casting Tazri. Magic the Gathering Resources, Tools, Previews, and Community. Weekly Metagame - What's the deck to beat? For Food Chain decks, usually you want combo protection in hand before casting this. Definitely best used in Consultation Kess lists. Since we use combo pieces that can work from exile, there is no reason why we don't use our Forbidden Tutors to dig [[Food Chain]] and already exile a [[Eternal Scourge]] in the process. 2. 3 is if one of us feels like being spiteful/stop the other because we have our win conditions and want to be the one to win. The cEDH Archetypes #11 - Infinite Mana. Q#1 basically hits FCT on the spot. An extensive induction of incredibly overpowered cards would push the format towards a place of either playing the new sauce or losing miserably while your opponent casts a 5c Food Chain commander that you can sacrifice to activate a Demonic Consultation effect. When you have Lab-Man in hand or in play you cast Demonic Consultation EOT before your turn naming a card not in your deck. His unique role as a tutor coming the command zone gives us a malleability for his builds, alternating between approaches totally all in or control-stax. The cEDH Archetypes #04 - Aetherflux Storm, 6. It was nuts as 3-of in the Summer's Night deck in MTG Worlds 1999. Note: in the pictures Tainted Pact & Demonic Consultation are still in KMC Perfect Fits from when I had them double sleeved. 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Welcome back to cEDH 101! The idea here is to buy all the cards in our library for some effect which commonly will come in exchange for our life. As you can see, when we refer to Forbidden Tutors, we are talking about [[Demonic Consultation]] and [[Tainted Pact]], which are referred to in such a way as they are considered all in cards. 8. The Flash Hulk deck I played the deck while it was still legal. Demonic Consultation and Thasa's Oracle seems to be a large issue as well They are. The CEDH course is open to DO’s, MD’s, Midwives, Nurses, ND’s, PA’s, and Pharmacists. … Nekusar cEDH by Casually Competitive. Kess herself allows us one of the most unfair lines of the entire archetype: we stabilize the table during the game with our Grixis deck and, when appropriate, we use one of the tutors naming either Jace or the Oracle to then play them and reuse the tutors in the cemetery, thus ending the game. .ehsOqYO6dxn_Pf9Dzwu37{margin-top:0;overflow:visible}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu{height:24px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu{border-radius:2px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:focus,._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:hover{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-navIconFaded10);outline:none}._38GxRFSqSC-Z2VLi5Xzkjy{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT{border-top:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);cursor:pointer;padding:8px 16px 8px 8px;text-transform:none}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT:hover{background-color:#0079d3;border:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-body)} So, you can just play it like a tutor, at least in some cases. ._1PeZajQI0Wm8P3B45yshR{fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._1PeZajQI0Wm8P3B45yshR._3axV0unm-cpsxoKWYwKh2x{fill:#ea0027} In prossh in particular u can exile ur own squee and then cast him from exile with fc, same with misthollow and eternal scourge in other decks. Mystic Remora 7. 1 Spoils of the Vault from Mirrodin. 6.66% chance of it being in the top 6 of a 90 card library. Talking about our beloved mage, she is undoubtedly one of those who most benefit from using the Consult-Pact duo. In Food Chain decks like Prossh and Tazri, there should be ample enough win conditions that you don't exile them all on the way to Food Chain. You can also win on the spot with any cantrip. Legends of Runeterra and its respective properties are copyright Riot Games. This deck also uses the omnipresent Demonic Consultation and Tainted Pact package for an alternate win enabler. Despite this, there is one thing in common in almost every construction of our Esper friend: a big panic button called Consultation Combo (if everything goes wrong, we will still have hope for a simple and effective combo). 3c somewhat turbo deck where the goal is to overwhelm your opponents with card advantage and typically end the game by assembling Thassa’s Oracle +Demonic Consultation /Tainted Pact or Glint-Horn Buccaneer as a one card combo with Malcolm, Keen-Eyed Navigator . cEDH is a style of Commander involving high-powered, highly focused decks that seek to act and win as quickly and reliably as possible. The latter takes us back to ancient times in the cEDH, before Jace or Oracle. We can also choose to add other forms of exile to increase deck's redundancy for our combo. The card over performed in every situation i needed it in. The cEDH Archetypes #05 - Hatebears. We have combined both sessions here since they are filled with the variations mentioned above. All the cards for this decks gameplan and combo are on a budget. I wondered the same thing as OP for a long time until i started playing fc prossh. The correct answer is always [[approach of the second sun], New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the CompetitiveEDH community. One deck that utilizes pact and demonic consultation well is 5 color food chain tazri, I forget the numbers, but the odds of exiling food chain off the top 6 is low, you run limduls vault, and I would say the proper time to cast consultation is when you are able to win, and atleast 1 players shields are down. All Rights Reserved. cEDH might just be the future of Commander. You don’t name a card until Demonic Consultation resolves. Last week I came to you with a new approach, in order to explain how the main strategies of the cEDH work, to introduce new players to the format and to review the decks and staples with the old players. How are you? 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