Cli-Sci-alarmists do so dislike history as cross reference, Have not read it. NSIDC reported that Arctic sea ice levels were at record-level lows in June 2020, while also being the earliest in the year that the Northern Sea Route has ever been ice-free. Or we could look at the Icelandic sea ice index. The actual facts of the matter, though, might be reasonable if they were presented in a clinical way, supported by tangible data. The updated data contradict one of the most frequently asserted global warming claims – that global warming is causing the polar ice caps to recede. munawar1235 67 • 5 hours ago. Geology is the study of the climates of the past as written in the rocks of this earth. “reduction in cloud fraction” = “a billion tonnes of liquid water disappearing from the atmosphere”. You have finally reached a basic level of sanity. Increased precipitation and an earlier thaw are both of immense interest to a large swathe of the local inhabitants, all of whom have seen for themselves the effects of global warming. And some wouldn’t want that now, would they? [I can't see much advantage to OZ from such shipping.] And he also has a advanced tactical camouflage and fantastic infiltration skills since he enters and egresses from those billions of homes unseen. “Yeah right! How do they all sum up? “It will without doubt have come to your Lordship’s knowledge that a considerable change of climate, inexplicable at present to us, must have taken place in the Circumpolar Regions, by which the severity of the cold that has for centuries past enclosed the seas in the high northern latitudes in an impenetrable barrier of ice has been during the last two years, greatly abated…this affords ample proof that new sources of warmth have been opened and give us leave to hope that the Arctic Seas may at this time be more accessible than they have been for centuries past, and that discoveries may now be made in them not only interesting to the advancement of science but also to the future intercourse of mankind and the commerce of distant nations.” 2: “…..other processes are at work, including the 2,500 year oscillation [other workers have set the value, variously, at from 2,500 to 2,700] that correlates with the 14C production in the atmosphere, and hence with solar events, rather than the Milankovitch effect. Except now. However, the climate sensitivity increases from 3.2 K in CAM4 to 4.0 K in CAM5.”, “This work provides a methodology for further analysis of climate sensitivity across models and a framework for targeted comparisons with observations that can help constrain climate sensitivity to radiative forcing.”. Some researchers hold that cosmic rays hitting Earth’s atmosphere create aerosols which, in turn, seed clouds. Other records from the Californian coast and Tibet suggest that the cold snap may have been felt throughout the Northern Hemisphere, and perhaps worldwide. They put the cars up on wooden logs meters in the air so they can drive to town in mid winter on the ice. What does it all mean. 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(2012) who published an article in the Journal of Climate over at the AMS entitled: The Evolution of Climate Sensitivity and Climate Feedbacks in the Community Atmosphere Model where they happily burble about modeling”. The last 150 years (1705 to 1855) are highlighted in red to show the warming as the Earth began coming out of the LIA. My thinking is that the Arctic Ocean was probably often, briefly perhaps, free of ice cover over the summer period for those thousands of years that the peoples of the Independence cultures occupied those far northern Greenland regions. Hell, even some of Henry VIII’s coastal defenses have been left high and dry. on the very poorly known history of the “Independence 1 culture” first seen at the Wandel Dal valley, an off shoot of the Independence Fiord in the furtherest north region of Greenland. The idea that modern man’s evolution was helped by an ice age is an incomplete assessment of human progress. I think YOU probably believe in a site called, ‘realclimate’, we all know what that is about. If you wish to assert that the current temperature for Greenland is two degrees warmer than that, then please cite a reference. If this is so, then by implication, it can be accepted as good supporting evidence for there being a like-wise long term secular change in sunspot activity; and therefore, solar energy output. Now that they have reached Alaska he has cheered up- 27 Aug; WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! If you want to check out that narrow strip of coast where the Persians and Spartans had it out you’ll find that it’s now a broad strip with a busy road along it. Recent balloon flights by and Earth to Sky Calculus show that cosmic rays are intensifying., “Humans without protective solar panels somehow spread far and wide, and generally flourished.”. Up-thumbing can take a few seconds for effect. When you really take a long term view as the second graph does, you realise that all the vaporous hand-waving and “OMG, we are all going to die” attitude of the always-connected-chatterati, in the 21 century, is all just self titillation. As I understand it all that ice mostly indicates the temperature of the sea. This is the Antarctic with strong winds circling the South Pole, they seem to be permanent and if breached the whole southern hemisphere may freeze And Longyearbyen, Svalbard, Norway, a town of some 2000 people [ and the site of the Millennium Seed Vault ] located at 78 degrees 12 minutes north. Cloudy days, anyone? announcements, ‘sea rising,’ ‘ ice melting,’ ‘planet There are a lot of variables; obliquity, precession, changes in eccentricity etc. Just silly really. : As I have always been interested in history as well as technology through out my life I have also found Ole Humlum’s section on “Climate and History” [ LH menu ] to be a fascinating read through the periods he has listed. “Connecting dots” without complete info and close observation of the physical world is for climate zombies. It will be funny watching the Arctic Sea Ice Worriers over the next several years as extent starts to increase in line with the natural cycle of the AMO. I get your point Peter but the “clams” helped me work out what he meant. ), These factors formed the basis for Milankovitch’s hypothesis, explaining the occurrence of ice ages in time. They starve, or in some cases, drown. Its a short, meaningless part of the NATURAL ice cycle, directly related to the upward leg of the AMO. s.src="//"; No one talks about it and Lake Baikal”. You like what the journalist wrote, and you accuse the researcher’s own words of being a “twist”. This event will significantly reduce the organisms’ capacity to remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. “31 May 2016 – In recent years, the glacial mass balance of Greenland is increasing despite announcements that global temperatures are on the rise; despite warnings that the Greenland Ice Sheet is melting; and despite announcements of a possible “blocked Gulf Stream “or catastrophic increase in sea level .” It coincided, they find, with a large increase in the amount of beryllium-10 trapped in Greenland ice – evidence of a solar flicker. That what this Klimat stuff is – theft of a generation through evil bold face lies & deliberate deception. Guarino, in a conversation with Global Citizen, explains that by studying the last warm period, they’re able to gather crucial information about the sensitivity of polar regions in a warmer world, enabling us to better improve future predictions. Updated data from NASA satellite instruments reveal the Earth’s polar ice caps have not receded at all since the satellite instruments began measuring the ice caps in 1979. A place of fantasy but the only thing which people could say was a harbinger of terrible times to come, except that nothing much is happening but at least it is dramatic every summer. huh? I may even have been thinking of her book The Mammoth Hunters. Ice is easier to blow around as a result of a warming trend, which has accelerated over the past 15 years. ‘Now, in May 2015, the updated NASA data show polar sea ice is approximately 5 percent above the post-1979 average.’. A new study just published in the Aug. 19th issue of Journal of Geophysical Research: Space Physics comes down in favor of cosmic rays. Arctic Sea Ice — it all melted before and it didn’t matter. The current summer is NOWHERE NEAR ice free, not like it was during large periods during the first 3/4 of the Holocene. It should help countries up there though. My Times column on how the Arctic sea ice has melted in late summer before, between 10,000 and 6,000 years ago: The sea ice in the Arctic Ocean is approaching its annual nadir. “Global Warming? Enjoy it while you can. For example, if the other person states that 2 + 2 = 4, then make that person prove that two and two always equal four; if they try, then make them prove all the premises upon which that proof rests, or advance irrelevant counterexamples (for example, “2 + 2 = 11 in base 3 arithmetic, or 2 + 2 = 0 if we define ‘+’ to be the subtraction operator”). Craig – how does this explain all the reports of Lake Baikal drying up? When it erupts—which no one can predict—the volcano “will create millions of gallons of water beneath the ice—many lakes full,” study leader Doug Wiens, professor of earth and planetary science at Washington University in St. Louis, said in a statement. No one lives there. Looks like a cordillera, walks like a cordillera, quacks like a cordillera…But we musn’t say it’s a cordillera. So a 1% drop in solar radiation for a few days. h/t to Michael for spotting that the arrows on graph 2 for the MWP and LIA were incorrect. MAY 19, 2015 30 Aug: ABC: Geothermal power project closes in SA as technology deemed not financially viable The Chief Elf has an Army of elves working for him 24/7/365. What was it you were saying about “fantasists”? Like all the dire tipping points that cannot be reversed, as long as that big fireball in the sky exists we will experience cycles of great magnitudes…..well if we manage to continue our ‘blink of an eye’ existence that is. I hope young Jacob doesn’t go through the mincer as his father did. You can stick a large plaque on a desalination plant, saying who the donor countries were, but for some reason, donor countries are not quite so interested in putting a very small plaque on a rain-water tank, saying who the donor was. But watch out Ice Age Now can seriously enhance your grip on reality. I bet YOU would not go up there to live Craig, PREFERABLY choosing to live somewhere much warmer. I thought the cosmic ray hypothesis was lead by Henrik Svensmark. marker at Tasmania’s Isle of the Dead, and for ‘Arctic The graphs presented in this post really illustrate why Geo’s almost to a man, and to a women as the case may be, are skeptics. So in attempting to get people to connect the dots look out it may be a fool, or amateur, a scam-artist, more likely it is all three. h/t to you. Add brine the same temperature as the ice but put this glass in an atmosphere that is 1°C warmer that of glass A. So you ADMIT you have no retort. The purpose of the chart is to distract from the subject of an “ice free summer” Arctic which concerns sea ice, not the ice on the top of an ice sheet. No one talks about it and Lake Baikal or the Great Lakes because they all melt in summer. This is what frequently flabbergasts me about the whole climate debate. I think Greenland is near the Arctic if Im not mistaken..(SARC) Of course the Vikings called it ‘Greenland’ not ‘Whiteland’. The Missing Hot Spot. To put that in other words; cirrus clouds need freezing nuclei to form. As per researchers, Dr Louise Sime and Dr maria Vittoria Guarino, sea ice completely melted in the last interglacial period -- which is essentially a geological period between an ice age. You are still welcome to produce any paper that proves that CO2 causes any warming in a open convective atmosphere. They are trying to encourage donor countries to think globally, but act locally, in a meaningful way, with solutions that address the real issues. So I looked up the furtherest north human settlements and towns existent today. South Australia’s Conservation Council is keen to see more public investment in geothermal energy and other renewable energy sources… Svante Bjorck of Lund University in Sweden and colleagues looked at sediments in Lake Starvatn on the Faroe Islands and in the Norwegian Sea, the width of growth rings in ancient German pine trees, and ancient ice drilled from deep within the Greenland ice sheet. All of it confirms the GISP data for the Arctic. Polar bears obviously got through it, as did seals. Contrast between generations of farmers and the wine-quaffing chatterati in the cities is at an all-time high. As part of nature we are always developing new, novel, and more efficient ways to fit with what nature has provided. You will see seas where now there is ice. By contrast, the total effect of man-made global warming will reach 3.5 watts per square metre (but globally) only by the end of this century.”. Thank you. This will lead to saltwater intrusion and the banning of capture of rainwater. NASA has analyzed satellite data and determined the maximum ice coverage of the Arctic is the lowest since 1979 — they've also found the Arctic is losing its perennial ice. This issue is so important for the survival of life on the planet that research, analysis and experiments are underway in many … References 2002. The leading edge of the new glacier is the only time when clam shells can be pushed ahead of the advancing ice wall. Each of these indicates how some characteristic of the environment has changed over the 11,000 or so years since the last ice age ended. A relative decrease is not a decrease in TSI, but a decrease as seen from here. It’s why ugly fashions return every couple of decades because the new generation believes they’re cool while their parents forgot to tell them opposite. Via; The Daily Caller internet news sheet; Earth Is GAINING Land Despite Warming-Fueled Sea Level Rise, Study finds. We are very much still in a COOLER period of the Holocene interglacial. There is evidence, however, linking changes in solar activity to climate fluctuations in the more recent past. Not a controversy. More detail on the sequence and origins of Greenland’s pre-Inuit cultures in the E-Book; Archaeology of Native North America; Chapter 14; The Arctic and sub Arctic. Jo does not give a reference. One Degree of Latitude = 60 nautical miles. All smoke and mirrors. I’m a skep. MUST-SEE…AND READ: PICS: 31 Aug: ABC: Shuba Krishnan: NT weather: Spectacular photos capture thick fog blanketing Alice Springs Antarctica? An all-time record low of 455.27 meters was registered in 1982.’. The trouble I have with that approach, is that I like civilisation; on the whole it’s really rather civilised. Scientists say that melting permafrost has the potential to unleash viruses and bacteria that have been dormant for tens or even hundreds of thousands of years. Its the temperatures anomalies recorded at 8 Icelandic weather stations by the Iceland Met. I think you can see some of the elevated beaches on the shore of the Bay of Campeche between Paraiso and Ciudad del Carmen using the Google maps satellite view. “We expected that the coast would start to retreat due to sea level rise, but the most surprising thing is that the coasts are growing all over the world,” Fedor Baart, the study’s lead author, told BBC News. “I suspect the main climate refugees from the Arctic would have names like Donner and Blitzen. That’s when you are not getting cooling (which, judging from 2200BC, Migration Period, LIA etc you wouldn’t really want). In fact if you believe in average as meaningful, the average is 0C, so even slightly colder winter means a lot more ice and a slightly warmer summer means a lot more ice. Forest fires in Siberia have contributed to the melting of ice in the Arctic This year's ice conditions come after a "crazy" stint of heat waves in neighbouring Siberia, which resulted in mass forest fires across the region. The Australian medicos were too arrogant to be told how to treat the ulcers by the Dutch medical practitioners. Since melting sea ice doesn’t change water levels it must have come from somewhere else. Very little. Yes, I thought you would come up some way of avoiding my request for references. Start a conversation, not a fire., nice impression of the upward cycle of the AMO, Craig, How about we look at Iceland, 8 stations… over a longer period, Oh, so that was how McKinsey, and Booze Allen, and KPMG got started? open NW Passage.Re ‘Arctic temperatures,’ in Greenland, Only fools, amateurs, and those on a scam would wish anyone to interpolate between known points. Ice shelves fracture because of excessive weight of ice, not because of melting. There’s always something else those loonies will find to whine about. Any assumptions beyond that and I would lose my skep credentials. Craig ANSWER: The North Sea Passage opened in 1817 after the Little Ice Age. Gould’s Belt is galactic formation in the Orion Spur which formed only about 33MYA, just as the Solar System came out of the Sagittarius-Carina spiral arm. Jo appreciates your support to help her keep doing what she does. Of course it has no effect. Scientists now believe that the Arctic will have ice-free summers before 2050. I would have posted in comments there that putting eggshell into soda water won’t dissolve it, but I don’t care to try and create access to yet another site. Over the past few decades, sea ice across the Arctic Ocean has gotten smaller and thinner. 2. Despite trillions of dollars, and masses of non-science from the AGW cultists…. How many weeks will shipping be possible? Those that can not see it doubtlessly can not see their effects in nature’s big picture. In the stratosphere we have a strong anomaly pressure. The albedo of sea ice is a reasonably important feedback. Too many predictions of an ice free North Pole. This is the one thing Matt doesn’t explain — in 8,000BC when the ice melted,  what the heck happened with Santa? 5% is greater than the range of values so the 5% must be 5% of something else. It was a huge Global Warming which created Civilisation, … well, gave Civilisation the chance to develop, a global warming completely out of human hands and not under human control.. Maybe that’s why the Greens are so anti Civilisation … they didn’t cause it, they can’t control it, and they can’t claim any credit for it, ergo it must be bad and has got to be destroyed. Flickering sun switched climate Jean M. Auel more or less wrote about this inter alia, the transformation of the northern hemisphere, in her novel The Clan of the Cave Bear. From a cyclical perspective, the Arctic freezes and then opens. He must also have the best legal team on the planet, considering the massive amount of trespass charges he’d be receiving.. A Delingpole call for assistance on ocean acidification, Extremely strong galactic radiation. Europe’s Little Ice Age coincided with low solar activity.Pieter Brueghel’s painting ‘The Census at Bethlehem’. Collective memory spans are one thing, but individuals barely remember anything 20 years old. Perhaps you should do some research of some of his other papers, maybe try to figure it out. “The average Arctic winter temperature is -30° F (-34°C), I am sorry Stan, but it isn’t utter nonsense, just mostly nonsense. . Or will the ice be gone for 10 months or so? However, due to global warming, more and more ice is melting each summer. let me help you out semantically. Hilarious. 30 Aug: Washington Free Beacon: Morgan Chalfant: Navy Can’t Prove That Green Energy Projects Save Money Usually this is tried in order to divert attention from the true picture. And as the AMO starts to dip down, the Arctic sea ice will start to climb. For clam shells to be in the moraine there had to be an ice free environment functioning before the ice formed. The islands shrink. It is more than obvious that there is more likely a ‘climate sensitivity variable’. Poor Craig didn’t even look at the link did you, This stuff appears incredibly tiresome, repetitive and fanciful. To report "lost" comments or defamatory and offensive remarks, email the moderators at: support AT I can’t see how cheaper shipping in the Arctic circle could make things cheaper here in Oz either, but there might be some flow-on effects. But we can make a few educated guesses. It’s just interesting that a renowned author was writing about the effects of global warming in our prehistoric era. Sooner or later it’ll implode itself and hopefully lead to LONG jail terms for the instigators and conspirators, but I won’t hold my breath because, like the Sun and Hydrogen fuel to fuse, it’ll remain puffed up while there’s money in it. Project HOPE Community 4 min read 797 words. I’m glad it was not just me but I am not sure I want to understand this since it is so weird. “…..An extension of the above idea, might be for the ever-growing intensity of the jet streams to slow the rotation of the Earth to a critical point, whereby the Earth’s inner core attains the same speed of rotation as the crust and mantle, (catches up so to speak.) I have to say, the stories of poor polar bears drowning in their hundreds have just vanished and now too much ice is recognized as a real problem for finding food, so they are marginal survivors like all Arctic species. Additionally, we find recent efforts to “homogenize” and flatten out the 1930s relative to more recent times. … the Galaxy is firmly in control of our climate. Quote No., from Adelaide Advertiser’ “Geodynamics calls it a day with its South Australian geothermal energy plans” -, “Geodynamics shares were 10 per cent lower at 1.8c.”. I recently bought (in Washington State) tires made in Thailand. When we hear those ‘OMG, this is unprecedented!’ But the Greenland Ice cores show temperatures there were hotter than today, and there are some proxies to estimate the extent of the sea ice. Before the Little Ice Age, there is evidence that Norwegian Vikings sailed as far north and west as Ellesmere Island, Skraeling Island, and Ruin Island for hunting expeditions and trading with the Inuit … Did you know that its not that long since the LIA, the COLDEST period in the last 10,000 years, and as we very fortunately warm a bit out of that dismal period, we can only expect there to be NATURAL melting. And thanks Jo, I have been saying for ages that the current level of Arctic sea ice is actually quite high compared to the rest of the Holocene, except the LIA. In addition, the last 14 years have seen the 14 lowest levels of Arctic sea ice in the modern satellite record. I see, the the volcano calved off West Antarctica and went…somewhere…is that it? Measures to determine the cost savings of these projects have been unreliable due to shortcomings in the Navy’s guidance for evaluating the projects, according to the audit. The radiation from any one of these or from all of them may have caused or contributed to the series of mutations leading to Homo Sapiens Sapiens of which you are an example. Here’s one from the other side of the Arctic: We already know that global warming and climate change is melting the icy regions of our planet at an alarming rate -- whether it's the Antarctic or the Arctic. Glass B. Manifestation of global climatic changes in Lake Baikal during the 20th century. Image: Thomas A. He must feel like a mental giant to you, then. At least the Dutch do. Antarctica's rapidly melting ice has put scientists and environmentalists around the world to seriously think about its consequences. It is largely irrelevant. “Yes but what if CO2 doesn’t cause warming?”. We’re done with the North East Passage! . Such always remains “trust me I am academic skyintist”, and you rat boy, know nothing!! Hitchhiking in Greece as a kid I went straight past Thermopylae and missed it. This is according to a study published in the journal Nature, that compares our planet’s current condition to the ice age that occurred 127,000 years ago. You are welcome to produce the paper that shows that CO2 causes any warming in a open convective atmosphere. The GISP2 chart is irrelevant to the Arctic as well. I said, so what happens when you add ice to a volcanoe? Researchers claim that Earth is going through another interglacial period called Holocene. Science has advanced, and will advance further. Apparently the global average temperature can switch between today’s mild climate and ice-age frigidity in just a few decades. That was over ten years ago, so he has a thorough grounding in the subject. Anyone who isn’t blind can tell by eye that they have labeled a small peak in the roman warm period as the medieval warm period and labeled the dark ages as the little ice age. Well not anymore! 20% of them live below sea level. Climate change (global warming) issues are in the future — and likely always will be. These human settlements rely heavily on fossil fuels to exist in these northern locations and are arguably the furtherest North that sustained human settlement can exist today. The graph is terrible. Or have you had a peek at Atlantis? H/t to The HockeySchtick, Stranne, C., Jakobsson, M., Bjork, G. (2014) Arctic Ocean perennial sea ice breakdown during the Early Holocene Insolation Maximum , Quaternary Science Reviews, Researchers highlight the fact that sea ice -- which is essentially frozen ocean -- actually helps in keeping temperatures lower as it reflects 80 percent of sunlight, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Centre. Forgot the little umbrellas for the Pina Coladas. “The effect was huge: about an extra 50 watts per square metre 80 degrees north in June. : var _wau = _wau || []; Cyberwarfare: Two 3-Star Generals call it “treason” and explain The Kraken is a Military Intelligence Unit, Huge? There are so many converging data points to support the skeptical position regarding the climate consensus. They are red giants. Apparently in the last twenty years that knowledge disappeared, and now it’s been unexpectedly rediscovered! “So a 1% drop in solar radiation for a few days. The fact is that he lives in the Finnish part of Lapland, just outside Rovaniemi. In fact mass balance is increasing because its getting colder and if this keeps up I can safely predict that large icebergs will be floating in the North Atlantic within a couple of decades. Arctic Ice Will Completely Melt Into Ocean In 15 Years, Claims Study, Copyright © 2020 Times Internet Limited. In regards to the Dutch, during the second world war, the Dutch army medical practitioners in the Japanese POW camps did not need to amputate limbs of their fellow POWs resulting from tropical ulcers. This is fine, because discussions of historic temperatures are always relative, and never absolute. The reason for the dot in the middle of the word was because something assumed I was misspelling Corsica and got overly and pig-headedly helpful. Deprived of this source of heat, the high latitudes grow cold. I don’t trust the models to improve my reality. CO2 does not cause gorebull worming, but thank the gods it will keep food on the table on our journey into a cool dry epoch. I think there’s a word for when you base your narrative on a selected 10% of the available information…..what is it again? Every summer, the Arctic ice cap melts to what scientists call its "minimum" before colder weather begins to cause ice cover to increase. The odd thing is the focus on “capture of rainwater.” Anyway, well done, Jacob, and hats off to Henrik who has produced and nurtured another inquisitive and competent scientist. _wau.push(["colored", "0wrnwcie92iv", "3wq", "ffc20e000000"]); President of the Royal Society, London, to the Admiralty, 20th November, 1817. Stupid sedimentation. The longer time series clearly shows a downward trend:, Poor Harry doesn’t understand basic concepts like “CYCLES”. Twitter is probably more within their capacity. Take two glasses A and B. Shaviv of Jerusalem University’s Racah Institute can account for that. Finally, the problem with low islands and humans is that the latter tend to cover the former with “stuff” that prevents the normal functioning and growth. Subscribe to Indiatimes and get handpicked updates based on your interests! Enough of that already. Powered by Indiatimes Lifestyle Network. And looking at the current rate of sea ice extent decrease, you would be forgiven for thinking it will happen before 2050. Antares is about 620M Light years from us, the star was formed about 12 MYA so it’s pretty young and is in its red giant phase. I suspect the main climate refugees from the Arctic would have names like Donner and Blitzen. It is hard to visualize why these might be cheaper for me if the ice on the Arctic Ocean melts. During that time, there were lakes across North Africa and lush jungle with Hippopotami disporting themselves in the lakes, where there is now desert. Ice loss, permafrost thaw, fires: Trouble in the Arctic and Antarctic could cause shocks to the world’s weather and sea levels sooner than thought, says a new study. * h/t to Craig Thomas for pointing out and that the word “global” in Graph 2, was better off not being there. Is this a complete fallacy or first class propaganda, truth and half-truth intermingled? Also the cooling event around 8,200 years ago ’caused a global CO2 decline of ~25 ppm over ~300 years.’, Off topic. Love this post, and the comments (which I still can’t up-thumb, by the way. In the past sea ice loss has been a result of higher air temperatures melting the ice from above. They had maps. That it was warm enough to melt sea ice implies it was also warm enough to melt other ice. So of course the ice melts in summer and real records only began with satellites in 1979. Indications are that we can look forward to a cooling trend for at least a couple of decades, then temperatures will rise again. By contrast, the total effect of man-made global warming will reach 3.5 watts per square metre (but globally) only by the end of this century. Hence the hyperbole. Craig thinks volcanoes are static objects. The correct name of the peoples of those northern regions today is “Inuits” , “Inuk” singular, by which they call themselves. did the ambulance officer send your message? “Established science does say the accumulation of CO2 causes the warming.”. Normally, ice forms along the northern Siberian coastline in early winter and is then blown out across the Laptev and beyond by strong winds. All rights reserved, However, a recent study has revealed that Arctic sea ice could disappear into the ocean in the coming 15 years, This is according to a study published in the journal Nature, that compares our planet’s current condition to the ice age that occurred 127,000 years ago, As per researchers, Dr Louise Sime and Dr maria Vittoria Guarino, sea ice completely melted in the last interglacial period -- which is essentially a geological period between an ice age. Rigel is a blue giant in Orion, is 770M light years away and was formed about 8MYA. That is what CYCLES are all about, Harry. I get it now. What you describe are two attributes of Civilisation. One degree of Longitude at the Poles = Zilch [ All meridians of Longitude converge at the Poles ] If you go outside and look up at the stars at night, and find Antares (a bright red star in Scorpio, not to be confused with Mars and Saturn which are currently hanging around that patch of sky) and Betelgeuse (bright red star in Orion) you will be looking at two more candidate Supernovae. Who says so and how do they know this? I’ve fixed that. Svensmark finds a correlation between solar activity and Cloud cover. This year's melt is second only to 2012, when the ice shrank to 3.4 million square kilometres, according to the US National Snow and Ice Data Centre (NSIDC), which has been keeping satellite records since 1979. Dunno, James Taylor might have it wrong but I’ll need convincing. I have often wondered …? The fact that this shoddy work keeps reappearing on blogs should be a mark of shame for the climate skeptic community. 6) deals with variations in the amount of insolation received by Earth throughout time, caused by Earth’s ever-changing astronomical relationship to the Sun (brought about by variations in the angle of obliquity of Earth’s axis to the plane of the ecliptic, the precession of the equinoxes, the eccentricity of Earth’s orbit and the precession of the perihelion and aphelion. Gradual, periodic changes in the shape of the Earth’s orbit around the sun are thought to trigger these larger-scale changes. This water will rush beneath the ice toward the sea and feed into one of the major ice streams that drain ice from Antarctica into the Ross Ice Shelf, Wiens explained. 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